Alan and I welcome our friend and former StillSecure colleague, Sam Van Ryder. Sam is now with Alert Logic where he heads up their partnership with Ingram Micro. Alert Logic is a security managed services provider and Sam gives us a look into the MSSP provider market. Alan also scoops the traditional media, announcing the McAfee's new NAC (network access control) product is actual a reannimated Lockdown Networks product. Much was made of Lockdown's death spiral and Alan makes sure he gets in the last shovel of dirt in this blog post, NAC of the living dead. We also talked about blogging, suggestions for getting started, why Sam needs to get after it, and why Scott should quit. You'll have to listen to the rest of the podcast to learn about the difference between a brazillian steak house and a traditional steakhouse (I can't give it away here.) Anyway, it's always fun to record a podcast from Scott Converse's Medioh / podcasting studio in Boulder, CO.